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NOVEMBER 3 VICTOR ECHO MIKE

ham radio Projects and musings from a (Relatively) new operator

in The Gutter

4/27/2016

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If you go all the way back to the beginning of this blog, you can see the current state of my home shack. If you need a refresher, here it is again.
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     Due to the hecticness (is that a word?) of life, and some other home projects that needed finished ahead of this, I haven't had time to dig into the work down here yet - but I will soon!​
     Even though life is busy, I still like to play radio in the house every so often. If that urge strikes and I can't fight it, I bring my stuff in from the car and set up like this:
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When I do this, the antenna I use as a temporary one is my gutters. Right outside this window is the downspout that goes up from the basement to the roof, and then the gutter runs the length of the main part of the house, about 32 feet. This means that between the downspout and gutter, I basically have a 60ish foot inverted L antenna, with the vertical part being about half of it. This works out to about 1/2 wave on 40 meters.
     When I decided to use this I knew it would be temporary, so I just pounded a 6 foot piece of rebar I had into the ground at the base of the downspout. I put a ring terminal on the center conductor of the coax and screwed that to the bottom of the downspout, and then used a hose clamp to attach the shield to the rebar.
 I make an ugly choke out of a few turns of the end of the coax, and connect the other end to my LDG tuner, and call it a day. Not nearly as effective as radials and proper matching would be, but it gets me on the air temporarily.
     So, all of this was to bring you here: Gutter's can make pretty darn good antenna's! 
Good enough that I'd consider burying some radials, putting in a proper ground rod, and making the coax connections a little more weather proof.  I made some contacts with good reports, and low power almost right away, so I decided to measure my gutter antenna using my analyzer.  Here's the graph:
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     This graph covers from 0 to 54 MHz, and almost all of it is under 5:1 SWR, so the LDG tuner that works with my radio can match it all just fine.  Here are where the bands land:
  • 160m is all right around 3:1
  • 80m varies from 2.5:1 to 3.5:1 
  • 40m is the worst ranging from 4:1 to 5.3:1 (go figure!)
  • 30m is all just under 4:1
  • 20m is all between 2:1 and 2.5:1
  • 17m is about 2:1
  • 15m is all between 1.8:1 and 1.81:1
  • 12m is between 2.8:1 and 3:1
  • 10m is between 2.7:1 and 3.3:1
  • 6m is between 1.6:1 and 3.3:1
     In addition to the relatively low SWR, there are a several spots that are nearly resonant - several of those aren't in the amateur bands, but a couple are:
  • 3.780MHz
  • 28.080MHz
  • 51.840MHz
     So if you actually read the whole way through this - what do you think?  Are you gonna hook up to your downspouts and gutters and see what magic you can make happen?  I know at least one of the local hams in my area uses his gutters from time to time, and I owe him a visit so that we can hook up the analyzer to his guttertenna and see how it charts out.  Leave a comment and let me know your thoughts!
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Jose Machado link
4/26/2016 19:41:10

Welcome to waves, hi hi!
See that antenna on my page http://ct1bat.blogspot.pt/2016/04/antena-dipolo-hf-dos-10-aos-80-metros.html
It works very well (see SWR=wow!)
(y'll enjoy!)
73

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Bob Elsinger
4/26/2016 23:40:55

Sure knocks the wind out the whiners who say they have no room for antennas lol

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Andrew
5/8/2016 17:36:56

no reason it would not work , might need a matchbox . would try that except my gutters and downspouts are vinyl .

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Vance - N3VEM
5/8/2016 21:57:13

Uh oh! Well, in your case I guess you'd be out of luck with your gutters - as far as I know no one has figured out how to load up vinyl...

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Al
1/8/2020 00:39:34

Loading vinyl gutters is easy! Just run a wire through them!! ;)

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